Would you like me to register you a nicer domain name?
No, thank you. Even if you can find one (most of them seem to have been registered already, by people who didn't ask whether we actually wanted it before they applied), we're happy with the PuTTY web site being exactly where it is. It's not hard to find (just type ‘putty’ into google.com and we're the first link returned), and we don't believe the administrative hassle of moving the site would be worth the benefit.
I wonder if they changed their mind because Google ceased to be a reliable way to find them.
ahmedfromtunis 15 hours ago [-]
The first link I get when I searched for "putty" was `putty.org` which, according to the footer: "The PuTTY project or its authors have never owned this domain, registered it, or purchased it."
Nevertheless, I can't consider relying on probabilistic algorithms controlled by 3rd parties to be a wise strategy.
Also, these days, after decades of habit building and a rise in awareness about scam-related stuff, I think people expect to see the name of the project early on in the URL, not in 7th position as it is currently.
sambull 7 hours ago [-]
> I can't consider relying on probabilistic algorithms controlled by 3rd parties to be a wise strategy.
That's pretty much all of the AI industry and clients.
nicce 5 hours ago [-]
Pretty much how the whole world works and why ads are multi-trillion dollar business.
herf 4 hours ago [-]
Google right now lists the title of putty.org as "PuTTY", even though right now this text is only in the footer. Up until August I guess it provided a download link, but the title was not "PuTTY".
I suspect that the recent kerfuffle motivated people to finally clean out bogus hyperlinks that casually listed putty.org as the download site, which would have been contributing to inflated page rank up to that point. I found one on a wiki and fixed it, myself, and I'm sure that I was not the only person who went looking.
whizzter 11 hours ago [-]
It's not inconceivable that some Googlers reads here or otherwise and took note to punish that site.
reader9274 7 hours ago [-]
Hmm why punish that site?
whizzter 6 hours ago [-]
Because it's affiliated with _another_ ssh client and there seems to have been various levels of shadyness over time, see previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44558328
pandemic_region 12 hours ago [-]
Assuming he owns the green end.org.uk domain, why not letting people land on putty.greenend.org.uk ?
JdeBP 5 hours ago [-]
Your assumption is false, so the question is without proper foundation. GreenEnd's Chiark is owned by Ian Jackson. Simon Tatham is a user on the system, with a home directory. One of a list of such users, including Rachel Coleman and Matthew Garrett.
It seems almost hostile to users. Why should I need to use some third party tool to find your thing? If you're paying for a domain anyway, pay for a meaningful one.
… Well, I guess that's what they've done. Surely nobody could ever have been this naïve, though; it's not as though Google massaging results into unusable mess is anything new.
kelnos 30 minutes ago [-]
> Why should I need to use some third party tool to find your thing?
How else would you find it? By typing domain name guesses into your address bar until you hit the right one? How would you be sure you've hit the right one and not a scammer/squatter?
This is not a particularly easy problem to solve, and I agree that relying on Google to accurately and safely deliver you to the correct web site isn't great either, but I think we'd be much worse off without search engines.
hammock 7 hours ago [-]
I barely know what SSH keys are, but last week when I was asked to provide one for an stfp site at work they said create a pair using putty.
Well I googled putty and found a couple different .org domains, one who which said it was legit but not official, and another which said it was official but looked wildly out of date.
Neither one I could find a download for Mac that worked. The one I tried gave a scary “we no longer allow putty sudo access as it’s dangerous” and when I googled this error I could find no explanation to assuage me.
And since I wanted to make sure what I was doing was legit, I searched for alternatives.
Eventually I discovered I could use command line in mac to generate the keys I needed. But first I installed Xcode then ran the command (I used chatgpt to tell me exactly how to get the type and length I needed). It was easy.
Side note, the whole culture of downloading random software and using it with just a single line in a terminal is always sketchy to me too. But I’m not a coder so I’m not used to it.
lanyard-textile 6 hours ago [-]
It is sketchy. :) Your intuition is correct.
The idea is that you will need to put some trust in the project anyway, since you’re trying to install it. Might as well make it easier with a one line install.
Edit: You should only do this if someone reliable tells you to, honestly. Doing this with truly random projects you aimlessly find is not a good idea.
ok_computer 7 hours ago [-]
If you hadn’t discovered this already with you mac CLI commands, OpenSSH from OpenSSL ‘ssh-keygen’ command is a good way to create SSH keys in ClI and ships in many OSes or is a lightweight download. The OpenSSL website name is unambiguous, which is a benefit.
OpenSSH and OpenSSL are completely unrelated projects.
whoamii 6 hours ago [-]
Should’ve used a goo.gl short link. ;)
rezonant 14 hours ago [-]
Unfortunately the person who owns putty.org started to use it to spread misinformation about vaccines and the pandemic, as you can see on the site today.
This recently [1][2] got a lot of attention on the web and here on HN, along with a post on Mastodon from the author [3]
I imagine trying to disincentivize this and provide another shorter more official looking link is the hope here.
Did putty.org once link to the putty software? Or an alternative SSH client? Why did the site ever become popular?
I'm trying to grok this, but all of the posts sort of obliquely refer to things that happened in the past (even the old HN links here), rather than explicitly just explain what the hell happened.
avar 14 minutes ago [-]
> Unfortunately the person who owns putty.org
> started to use it to spread misinformation
> about vaccines and[...]
Isn't that rather fortunate in the grand scheme of things? It could have been a landing page monetizing various SSH clients for windows.
Instead it's just some guy's website clearly unrelated to PuTTY. He's even gone out of his way to point people looking for PuTTY in the right direction. Who cares what his opinion is about anything else?
teaearlgraycold 13 hours ago [-]
> Since 2020 I have been speaking out against the fraudulent pandemic and the intentionally dangerous injections and my experience has been to have been censored and smeared. If you have not heard of me before, that's the reason.
One weird trick to make your insignificance seem significant!
1970-01-01 5 hours ago [-]
Hilarious how putty.org hasn't been updated, and still has a FINAL WARNING video on the landing page.
Extrapolated to the present time, all of us vaccinated individuals are now suffering the big consequences.
Too bad all nutjobs aren't so easy to disprove by simply taking a single large breath. :)
nailer 10 hours ago [-]
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zettabomb 9 hours ago [-]
Argument from authority is not particularly strong. The information on putty.org is considered misinformation by the vast majority of professionals in the field of infectious diseases.
nailer 8 hours ago [-]
I thought it was argument from expertise? And while you’re on the topic of epistemology truth isn’t determined by how common an idea is.
0manrho 7 hours ago [-]
He's not an expert on vaccines or infectious disease and pushed known provably false narratives during the pandemic.
nailer 3 hours ago [-]
I don't think being a medical and phramaceutical expert disqualifies him speaking about vaccines, do you?
What's the problem with them sharing they find it unfortunate?
Hackbraten 13 hours ago [-]
That’s not how discourse works imho. Yeadon is making extraordinary claims, so the burden of explaining and backing up those claims should be on them, not on us. Until they do, there’s no point in addressing their concerns.
zo1 11 hours ago [-]
This seems similar to the Notepad++ team using their platform to promote political viewpoints.
The same thing happened with Facebook "pages", when they became a personal "soap box" by the owner of the page. It was downhill from there... You might as well turn the whole web into FB/Twitter/X/Insta promotional spam at that point.
kryptiskt 10 hours ago [-]
It's not at all similar, and that doesn't have anything to do with the quality or lack thereof of the viewpoints.
The Notepad++ site is run by the authors and reflects their stance. Putty.org is run by an outside party who hijacks the reputation of the PuTTY project to push their agenda.
rokkamokka 10 hours ago [-]
It's one thing to say "stand with Ukraine", and an entirely different thing to spread vaccine misinformation...
As much as I like fedi, it does make it hard to understand which user on which instance is the correct one.
pferde 13 hours ago [-]
Luckily, fediverse has an account-to-website verification feature, see https://joinmastodon.org/verification . Mr. Tatham's account on hachyderm.io uses it, so we can be reasonably certain that it's the correct account for him.
throaway920181 17 hours ago [-]
Cool, but hachyderm.io also is not a trusted/recognizable domain for me. Trust issues all the way down!
andrewflnr 16 hours ago [-]
It's definitionally the correct domain for Simon Tatham's social media. What are you expecting here?
closewith 16 hours ago [-]
How would the average person know that?
viraptor 15 hours ago [-]
Average person aware of trust on social network / internet - because https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham has a validated link to the author's homepage.
Others - they don't understand the trust anyway, so there prerequisite steps missing before the main question anyway.
jstanley 15 hours ago [-]
hachyderm.io says it has a validated link to his homepage, but if you don't already trust hachyderm.io that means nothing.
aembleton 11 hours ago [-]
If you check the source of the website that it links to [1], on line 168, we have this
<p>I'm on Mastodon as <a rel="me" href="https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham">@simontatham@hachyderm.io</a>.</p>
If you trust that website, then you can be sure that this Mastodon account is the right one.
Sure, but by the time you've verified that, you could also have just visited the PuTTY website (the old/current one) to verify that putty.software is legit.
Looks like it's as complicated as a parts inventory system developed in house for a half a million employee company...
viraptor 12 hours ago [-]
There's a link on one side and a meta tag on the other. It's as simple as you can make the validation between two sites. It's not even fediverse-specific really - there were other services doing something similar before.
closewith 15 hours ago [-]
No, it really means nothing. Identity on the internet is not a solved problem.
pferde 14 hours ago [-]
You are wrong.
It means that whoever owns the website marked as verified also owns the social account. See https://joinmastodon.org/verification for a quick overview of how it works.
closewith 13 hours ago [-]
No, it means a certain link exists on the website. On Hacker News of all sites, I would think we should all know that's not sufficient evidence of identity for an update regarding the source of critical software like a terminal.
viraptor 13 hours ago [-]
Nobody claimed it validates the identity in any way. It validates that the person at the other website confirms it's their social account and the social account matches the other direction. The real identity is not involved here in any way and never was. You're disagreeing with someone nobody here raises.
But the link validation confirms that if you believed that the original download site belongs to the author, then you would have almost the same guarantee about the social account. (+/- the chances of the putty website being hacked)
closewith 12 hours ago [-]
Yes, your caveat at the end there is exactly why this method shouldn't be trusted, as it's indistinguishable from an attacker with access to embed a single link.
So it doesn't confirm the account belongs to the author, it confirms the site has a specific link and nothing more.
Adding a <meta> tag or creating a page with certain content are already used even for more impactful verification, like getting issued a certificate for that domain.
If an attacker does have broad access to edit the HTML of your website, I feel that's already the issue and Mastodon verifying that "this person controls this website" isn't even really wrong.
closewith 9 hours ago [-]
So you have read that page and understand its purpose is to link social media profiles for informational purposes, but don't understand that it's not suitable for any kind of auth, let alone in a software supply chain?
Ukv 9 hours ago [-]
By the XFN spec, it "demonstrates that the same person has control over [the pages]". The docs page I linked links to two further specs for using it for authentication in the way that Mastodon does.
closewith 8 hours ago [-]
I'm sorry. The XHTML Friends Network rel tag is neither reliable identification nor authentication. It's designed to say "this is my blog" in low stakes environments.
No sane sober person would use it to authenticate messages about changing URLs in a software supply chain.
nickv 7 hours ago [-]
No, if somebody has access to edit your home page directly, your blog, your company site, etc - you've already lost the game.
How is this any different than your email address being compromised? How is this different than having your laptop compromised and somebody downloading your .ssh folder?
The issue here isn't "is this reliable identification" - because it IS reliable. Your concern is "how likely is this to be compromised vs other things" and that's a fair concern - but there are plenty of very secure web sites out there. This isn't saying "I am john doe and this is my identity", this is saying with some confidence "this person on mastadon is the same person as the person who wrote this web site copy" and that's a totally fine piece of identification for the right context.
Ukv 7 hours ago [-]
If an attacker has control over the page to edit arbitrary HTML, that chain is already compromised. Even if the attacker's exploit only allowed certain attributes, just the href and rel attributes needed for this protocol would already be enough to execute javascript and load stylesheets on that page.
This is in addition to the original site linking to the new one with a news post. Does that also mean nothing because an attacker could add a news post to the page?
zo1 10 hours ago [-]
It was bad enough that we had to tell developers to trust some rando website to download a tool that we'd use to potentially plug in sensitive production usernames + credentials.
And now they've gone and made it worse by posting some new site and confirming the new link is real on their weird "hachyderm" social media post thing. Yeah, talk about a grey-beard get-off-my-lawn developer screaming at the wind and wanting to make it worse for themselves and their "brand".
viraptor 9 hours ago [-]
> on their weird "hachyderm" social media post thing
At this point tech people should understand what Mastodon is. For their own benefit. It's been years.
closewith 8 hours ago [-]
10 MM MAU estimated. Not exactly foundational to online discourse.
viraptor 51 minutes ago [-]
We're talking in context of Putty which is itself an extremely niche software. But if you think of just the software/tech people - Mastodon is quite an important place.
Exactly. Which nicely confirms all this by saying:
Latest news
2025-08-14 New website, putty.software
We have a new domain name for the PuTTY website!
...
roman_soldier 14 hours ago [-]
What if someone hacked his site and inserted that news item? Better to visit the guy in person and verify.
rzzzt 13 hours ago [-]
What if someone planted the idea of adding a new website for the project while he was asleep?
cyphar 14 hours ago [-]
Which is what the original response linked to. :P
ChrisArchitect 16 hours ago [-]
Wow the way the new page text was written still had me guessing.
Maybe just call this the Future Home of Putty or something with a big link to the official page.
I suppose word will get around pretty fast but still.
conorcleary 3 minutes ago [-]
What if Linus is serious about IPv4?
horizion2025 10 hours ago [-]
Hi that sad. I remember years ago sitting with a colleague and we had to download putty. Then we found the usual page. There is always the concern if it is legit or a fake site with malware. But I remember my colleague saying "it has to be genuine, only a computer scientist could make such a primitive web site"
dlcarrier 16 hours ago [-]
Simon Tatham's most important work is keeping its page:
If you never have to guess there must be one more strategy to figuring it out I've never seen anyone mention, because I frequently get stuck with two options on the very hardest difficulty.
bayindirh 14 hours ago [-]
That's a great variation of the game. Thanks for sharing the page. It's a gem!
ycuser2 12 hours ago [-]
I love these kind of webpages with little programs to discover.
zvr 12 hours ago [-]
The first thing I install in every Android device.
vovavili 10 hours ago [-]
This is a perfect version of the game, nice.
MortyWaves 17 hours ago [-]
Ever since Windows gained Terminal and OpenSSH, my usage of Putty has almost entirely ceased except for serial for embedded systems work.
Then I realised Putty ships with a CLI version which I now use in Terminal for accessing serial.
throaway920181 17 hours ago [-]
I haven't used Putty since I stopped using Windows for anything serious (in the early 00s.) It was my favorite quick and dirty SSH and serial client before then though!
sshine 14 hours ago [-]
I have to say, I liked SecureCRT a lot, too.
PuTTY was just easier to get ahold of on a new install.
I think that's why it won out for me. That and its simplicity.
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 17 hours ago [-]
I always used mingw and similar projects. IMO, putty was always annoying (but very useful) software. The "ecosystem" seems better now though.
MortyWaves 17 hours ago [-]
Indeed, that and “git bash” were always the weird outliers. I’m glad there’s now native options.
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 16 hours ago [-]
mingw predates git on windows (and in general), but yeah, indeed.
I remember my journey trying to disambiguate Git Bash, Git for Windows, MinGW and MSYS2. To this day, I'm still not sure I have the full story right.
1oooqooq 4 hours ago [-]
just install msys2.
i cannot imagine windows without it. even wsl garbage pales in comparison
Helmut10001 16 hours ago [-]
I don't trust Windows with my SSH keys. Since about 2 years, I am actively preparing my final migration to Linux. There's some Windows software left that I need to replace before this move is possible, but I am close.
gregoryl 15 hours ago [-]
Just pull the trigger. A surprisingly large amount of software just works on wine.
I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly?
I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.
samuell 6 hours ago [-]
Wine can be a bit of a headache if you are on a couple year older distro as it can make it harder to install newer Wine versions.
But I found that the Bottles project pretty much solves this, by installing everything in some kind of sandboxed environment:
Has worked wonderfully for the few cases where plain Wine failed.
1oooqooq 4 hours ago [-]
bottles is garbage. i mean wine is extremely dangerous too... but bottles lie and that make it more dangerous.
they don't have sandbox. only if you install the flatpack AND DISABLE SOME CONVENIENCES you actually get something I'd call a safe sandbox.
but their site lies and make you feel safe while being extremely vulnerable installing cracked games (which is what everyone used bubble for).
magnat 14 hours ago [-]
> I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience
Which IDE do you use? JetBrains Rider?
seabrookmx 5 hours ago [-]
Not the person you asked, but I'm in a similar boat (15 years, polyglot but a lot of C#).
I mostly use VS Code to be honest. I use VSCode for other languages and for a long time it was the only graphical editor to have good remote development (over SSH) support.
Rider has that feature now though and is pretty nice too. I typically jump over to it when I need to profile something as it integrates with dotTrace. If you're coming from full-fat Visual Studio you'll probably prefer Rider.
gregoryl 5 hours ago [-]
Rider; however that's on a Windows work machine. We are a solid way to getting a linux/mac dev env going; maybe 30% is netstandard2.0, 10% is net9, the remainder net472 (including an old school non-sdk web app on IIS). Maybe ~ million LOC in its 14 year lifespan.
My personal dev is shifting to Rust.
Bender 10 hours ago [-]
I agree with you and just wanted to add that for what it's worth one can optionally limit where ssh keys are useful by adding network restrictions on the public key / server side. e.g.
or wherever your system is configured to look for public keys, typically /home/username/.ssh/id_dsa.pub. I use a different location. Even being really broad like adding a /16 or /8 for a home ISP is still better than allowing the entire internet. This can also be useful where machine-to-machine ssh keys are utilized one can limit the access to that network so that should keys leak the potential blast radius of damage is reduced. For example, the keys for an Ansible account can be restricted to the Primary/Secondary Ansible server IP addresses or at very least the CIDR block(s) of the network(s) they reside in. Broad restrictions are not perfect but perfect is the enemy of good or good enough.
Example use case would be that lets say a contractor from Microsoft tries one of your keys. Your restriction limits the key validity to 24.0.0.0/8 and they are coming from 207.0.0.0/8. They will be denied Authentication refused and you now have log entries that can be shared with their fraud department, the world, whomever. Obviously the tighter the restrictions the better, at the risk of requiring a static IPv4 or IPv6 address if too tight. One can always have lighter restrictions on a fall-back account that requires additional hoops to sudo / doas / su.
mystifyingpoi 16 hours ago [-]
Is such paranoia warranted? Millions of corporate laptops run Windows 11 just fine. I know M$ is evil and spying on you, but not to such degree.
miahi 15 hours ago [-]
Having a Windows 11 corporate laptop with a domain/Entra login, I actually trust it more than a home Windows 11 with a Microsoft account. Because if I lock myself out, I have a contact (corporate support) that is actually interested in helping me recover everything. With a Microsoft account it's a mess. I had so many problems with Microsoft accounts that I lost count of how many I have, and most are broken in some way, because of different issues and different service integrations over time. The Skype account is now useless. I never recovered my paid Minecraft account after one event. With a machine with a local account, now I have to be very careful on what I click related to MS accounts, because trying to solve various issues with Teams, I managed to get the local account linked with that MS account. I spent hours trying to recover a different account after I randomly filled one nagging question about birth date - who wants to give the real birth date to Microsoft - and then I got locked out because I said was underage :). So yes, one of the big issues is the push to have a linked OS account where you have to rely on MS support to solve your issues, otherwise you basically get locked out of your machine and other things you paid for.
Also, domain policies offer more control over the corporate PCs (this is how some of the MS spying is shut off on corporate PCs; it's debatable if the corporate spying added by other domain policies is an improvement).
RyanHamilton 15 hours ago [-]
I have to agree, I've also suffered account problems. I was locked out from an email address I used for 20 years. It refuses to take my password which is still valid. I've changed phone number since 20 years ago so can't use that and the security questions were nonsense as I was a teenager. Originally my account never had phone number, they insisted I add it when they integrated my Skype account perhaps. So I didn't expect access to that phone number to be a strong ongoing requirement.
JdeBP 12 hours ago [-]
I recently, by playing around with the LAN's default PAC file and a dummy HTTP server, discovered that on a machine that says in System Settings that Proxy Auto-Discovery is turned off, the PAC file is still fetched and used by a too-large number of Microsoft/Google background auto-update services, from Windows Update to Office.
I had been lucky through having done my own experimentation, decades ago, with setting up a default PAC file on the LAN and having left it in just-send-everything-directly mode, keeping it as I upgraded things on the LAN, all of these years. Because otherwise I would have been vulnerable to a third-party in the search path for years, on a machine that clearly and unequivocally, including per direct inspection of the setting in the registry, has this switched off.
> Is such paranoia warranted? Millions of corporate laptops run Windows 11 just fine.
Yes. With Windows Recall data mining surveillance screenshots taken every 5-7 seconds, completely disregarding if this may compromise your security, safety or privacy, we move from "you're the product" to "you're a pet in a zoo, and we want to learn from your behavior."
> I know M$ is evil and spying on you, but not to such degree.*
I mean, they could be recording every second.
I'm pretty sure that's a bandwidth issue.
Not because they really feel like giving you 3-4 second pockets of security, safety and privacy.
TiredOfLife 5 hours ago [-]
I can't wait for the AI overlords to take ower. Maybe then we can finally be free from people spreading misinformation and fud.
delfinom 7 hours ago [-]
>Windows Recall data mining surveillance screenshots
Some of you people are just too far gone to turn off a setting.
chainingsolid 7 hours ago [-]
We don't trust them to not turn it back on later...
TiredOfLife 5 hours ago [-]
Turn on. It's off by default. But people on HN, reddit and twitter are too stupid.
xigoi 3 hours ago [-]
> It's off by default.
For now. This is Microsoft we’re talking about. Needing a Microsoft account to log in to Windows used to be optional.
chneu 15 hours ago [-]
I don't trust microsoft to not push an update that exposes all my stuff. Their updates the last few years have been an absolutely shitshow in so many regards.
nine_k 16 hours ago [-]
Why replace it? Wine works fine.
malux85 15 hours ago [-]
Can you tell us which software? (Even if it’s very niche) I’m really curious where the gaps are.
xobs 14 hours ago [-]
I know Altium doesn’t work, which is very important if you need to provide someone else files in Altium format. If you just want to work on designs there’s always Kicad, which is increasingly very good! But it can’t save in Altium format, and I’m not sure I’d trust it for manufacturing.
The other thing I’m missing is my 3D Gerber viewer called ZofZPCB. I’ve not gotten either it or Altium to even start.
Kwpolska 10 hours ago [-]
If Windows were to steal your SSH keys (lol), would you really think using a third-party program would protect you? The evil code could just read the key you configured in PuTTY.
17 hours ago [-]
oguz-ismail 17 hours ago [-]
> Terminal
Have they fixed font rendering yet? cmd.exe looks better on my laptop
They probably meant conhost.exe (it gets you the regular console on Windows 11).
Lammy 46 minutes ago [-]
Fun fact: if you have Windows Terminal installed, it takes over `conhost.exe` and brings telemetry spying even to old apps which never had it before :D
Windows is basically spyware at this point. The only way to win is to not play.
perching_aix 12 hours ago [-]
Are you referring to the pixel-level font smoothing they use by default (as opposed to CMD's subpixel-level font smoothing)?
You need to define the "antialiasingMode" key in the settings JSON for the default profile to hold the value "cleartype", rather than "grayscale" (which is the default value). I don't believe this is exposed in the GUI settings page.
Note that this only affects the actual terminal emulation area. The rest of the application will still be pixel-level font smoothed (so e.g. the tab titlebars, the settings, etc.).
MortyWaves 17 hours ago [-]
I’ve never noticed any issues on any computer with it…
recursive 17 hours ago [-]
The first time I ever saw it, the text already looked better than cmd.exe via conhost.
Something wrong with my eyes? Doesn't cmd.exe look smoother in this screenshot?
recursive 15 hours ago [-]
I agree. In those screenshots cmd looks better. Not sure what's up.
DrinkyBird 9 hours ago [-]
It's the lack of subpixel anti-aliasing (aka ClearType). For some reason it's being erased from a lot of modern software. It's why Windows >= 8 UWP apps and GNOME look so blurry.
Looks like you’ve gone for something like the classic text mode 80x25?
MortyWaves 16 hours ago [-]
I find the Terminal more readable because the white seems brighter in your screenshots
layer8 10 hours ago [-]
The color is configurable for both.
Geezus_42 10 hours ago [-]
cmd.exe looks worse to me. Particularly because of the lack of padding on the left.
mvdtnz 16 hours ago [-]
Terminal looks far better.
Kwpolska 10 hours ago [-]
cmd looks pixelated.
throaway920181 17 hours ago [-]
I've only used it through RDP on Wayland and it's been fine visually. Downloading it can be a challenge if you don't know where to look (Github, not Microsoft's App Store...)
someodd 14 hours ago [-]
I was expecting a modern redesign when I read the headline, but I was so delighted to be greeted by such a nostalgic style!
Cheers to decades of memories with PuTTY!
Simon_O_Rourke 14 hours ago [-]
Thank you PuTTY for saving my butt so many times in archaic security-theatre companies who would block all ssh apps except leave the PuTTY website and downloads still available.
Y_Y 18 hours ago [-]
> Unlike other landing pages, this one is run by the PuTTY team itself, and not by a third party with their own agenda.
No idea what this means.
Anyway Simon Tatham's games are so good I think he gets a pass on anything else he does.
The current holder of that domain is using it to host a single page that pushes anti-vax nonsense under the guise of fighting censorship... but also links to the actual PuTTY site. Very weird mix of maybe-well-meaning and nonsense.
kahirsch 17 hours ago [-]
The guy behind that page and bitvise appears to have gone totally crazy during the pandemic. On his blog, he said in 2021 "I forecast that 2/3 of those who accept Covid vaccines are going to die by January 1, 2025."
And in 2022, he wrote "Covid-19 is mostly snake venom added to drinking water in selected locations. There may also be a virus, but the main vehicle of hospitalizations is boatloads of powder, mixed in during 'water treatment.' Remdesivir, the main treatment for Covid, is injected snake venom. mRNA vaccines hijack your body to make more snake venom."
mock-possum 15 hours ago [-]
> mixed in during 'water treatment.' Remdesivir, the main treatment for Covid, is injected snake venom. mRNA vaccines hijack your body to make more snake ven
Whaaaaat the fuuuuuuck
Can anyone debug this statement?? I’m not looped into weird this realm of paranoid delusion torecognizs what they’re referring to here.
chuckadams 8 hours ago [-]
There's no sense debugging the output when the hardware that produced it is clearly defective.
neilv 18 hours ago [-]
That looks like an open and shut ICANN trademark case to me.
They do kinda make the journalist look bad. That email exchange opened with a bunch of extremely-loaded questions, and quickly transitioned into the journalist actively advocating for the transfer of the domain, and using "I'm going to report about this" as a threat.
Plus, I can find absolutely zero evidence of the existence of a German journalist called "Mirai F", so I'm a bit suspicious. (It might be the "PuPRed" person being maybe-doxxed -- but that's a blog site which entirely consists of a single article about PuTTY, so I'm not convinced "journalist" applies in a meaningful sense.)
The Bitvise answers also don't look good, of course. Nobody comes out of that one smelling like roses.
I say this as someone who thinks putty.org was pretty sketchy before it went full anti-vax, and is currently looking like a slam-dunk example of the kind of thing trademark law was meant for.
tanepiper 17 hours ago [-]
The guy who runs putty.org is absolutely the South Park basement guy
commandersaki 16 hours ago [-]
There isn't a trademark for PuTTY.
immibis 13 hours ago [-]
Do they have a trademark? It costs $325 per year plus roughly $650 for the initial application (even if rejected). Is he paying that?
I don’t really want to give it credit by linking to it, but this seems to refer to putty[.]org which is using its search ranking to push things unrelated to PuTTY.
It's incredible to me that this tool is still needed.
Using putty as my daily driver was definitely part of my coming-of-age story as a windows sysadmin way back when.
layer8 5 hours ago [-]
It’s not needed on modern Windows strictly speaking, but many users still prefer it.
accrual 5 hours ago [-]
Yeah, I use Windows Terminal for a lot of day-to-day stuff, but PuTTY is still my go-to for older systems, serial stuff, SSH tunnels, and anything needing more detailed control over the session.
password4321 7 hours ago [-]
I'm pretty sure PuTTY is no longer needed needed except possibly as a user mode pageant.
accrual 5 hours ago [-]
As far as I know it's still one of the best ways to handle serial connections on Windows, and a surprising amount stuff still supports or defaults to serial. Great for managing headless OpenBSD systems.
yazantapuz 18 hours ago [-]
I hope they only change the domain name, and keep the spartan websiste.
nine_k 18 hours ago [-]
The regular page looks designed by the rules of the earliest version of HTML from 1993: no colors, no fonts, no graphics; it could be a port of a Gopher page. But the new landing page goes all the way to 1995, with fancy custom link colors, and colorful bitmap graphics!
aembleton 11 hours ago [-]
The new one even has CSS making it much more modern.
ChrisArchitect 16 hours ago [-]
Related recent context/controversy that maybe fueled some of this:
I think PupRed is a troll and stirred this up with the intent to provoke an escalation.
bdavbdav 6 hours ago [-]
Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
tonymet 6 hours ago [-]
Putty is obsolete for SSH terminals, but is still useful for serial terminals (like when you need to flash a bricked router )
Putty is a terminal emulator and an SSH + telnet client all in one. Now Microsoft offers a number of platforms that overlap to provide similar functionality.
WSL2 (aka WSL) is the Linux system that runs a Linux kernel and apps within Windows (technically a hidden HyperV VM) with some loose bindings to the OS resources for networking, files etc.
OpenSSH is the SSH client installed with Windows. It can be used via CMD or Windows Terminal + Powershell . You don’t need WSL installed. So it’s great for VMs or remote shells.
Powershell is the Windows Shell (like bash on Linux or CMD on earlier windows) that lets you run openssh and other windows CLI Apps
Windows Terminal is the new-ish (6+ years) terminal emulator that lets you run a variety of shells. Most commonly Powershell , Bash (WSL), or you can SSH to any host using openssh . It works like tmux with tabs/windows into any remote host .
I decided to lay this all out because Windows apps for SSH and terminals are a little different than Linux.
II2II 6 hours ago [-]
Windows has shipped with OpenSSH (client and server) for years. Windows Terminal has also been available for years, and now ships with Windows. So you do not need PuTTY.
That said, some people like PuTTY. It is much easier to setup and use. It also offers other features (like serial communications).
jddecker 6 hours ago [-]
The OpenSSH SSH client has been included in Windows as default since 2018, so you don't even need WSL to use it anymore.
Just open a terminal and type ssh just like you would in Linux.
simcop2387 6 hours ago [-]
Sometimes, lots of companies will lock down WSL and similar because they can't as easily control what's running in it for security or policy reasons. In those cases putting would be easier to audit and deal with since it's much more single purpose
stephenlf 6 hours ago [-]
OpenSSL was available on Windows even before WSL.
esskay 7 hours ago [-]
Thats a blast from the past, I'd completely forgotten about putty (moved away from Windows when Vista came out). The pain of SSH on an OS that seems to be intentionally made to be as clunky as hell for developers however is never something I'll miss.
accrual 5 hours ago [-]
It's kinda wild it took until part way through Windows 10's life to get an integrated SSH client. Even then it had to be downloaded from the store. I believe it's a native part of Windows 11 now.
I'm pretty happy with Windows Terminal these days, but before then, it was all PuTTY + SecureCRT.
flowerthoughts 15 hours ago [-]
Is it just me that feels www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ has some kind of sentimental value? I built a locked-down version fof PuTTY for their termainl-based (book) library system in 1998. It's been with me a long time.
ozim 16 hours ago [-]
Since windows started shipping open ssh I don’t have any use for putty.
nilslindemann 9 hours ago [-]
These useless mini screenshots.
indigodaddy 9 hours ago [-]
I think they were just trying to fill out the page a little bit.
nilslindemann 40 minutes ago [-]
Well, they say that they are planning to move everything to this page, so I guess it's just temporary.
indigodaddy 13 hours ago [-]
Not sure what all the negative comments are trying to accomplish. It's a perfect and simple little landing page. Simon has finally done what everyone has been asking for, so why are some people still complaining and harping about "trust" ? Get a grip.
roguebloodrage 13 hours ago [-]
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nulbyte 10 hours ago [-]
It is. The very first news item on the original page mentions it. It's plain as 1993.
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userbinator 17 hours ago [-]
Somehow, these new long TLDs just feel spammy and "fake" and I usually ignore them when they show up in search results. Unfortunately the .com, .net and .org are already taken.
CalRobert 16 hours ago [-]
They were originally a protection racket to shake down brands on the idea they’d have to register them all. Donuts even had the Domain protected marks list which let you pay to block registration but not have the domain yourself
rconti 4 hours ago [-]
Alternatively, the "popular" TLDs are a money grab by vested interests who already own popular domains.
neuralkoi 17 hours ago [-]
I agree, there's some good alternatives available too of about the same length (if you include name + TLD):
Those actually feel spammy too; e.g. seeing "official" or "download" in a name has always triggered a suspicion, because normally there's no need to specially say your site is "official" or "download" besides to mislead.
Then again, I may be biased due to always remembering PuTTY's official page being someone's personal site hosted on a .org.uk server.
anything with "download" in the domain name looks scammy to me
crossroadsguy 17 hours ago [-]
All of these are better than and I assume cheaper than that .software one.
Even puttytelnet.com/org/net is available.
Hell the puttytel.net is available
JdeBP 12 hours ago [-]
The org. one being already taken being the straw that broke the camel's back in this case. It has been a FAQ item for years. But the org. domain squatter's recent behaviour crossed the line, from what M. Tatham has said on the FediVerse.
I (and I suspect several others) suggested a TLD that you would probably have no qualms about, a few weeks ago. M. Tatham went with software. instead; which is fair enough. software. has been around for a while, and is stable and a fairly on-point choice.
Be thankful that it was not putty.party. . (-:
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epigramx 17 hours ago [-]
Not a big deal, because they tend to be trusted eventually by the search engines and the language models, though I don't trust much the latter to tbh.
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TZubiri 17 hours ago [-]
Certificate by Let's Encrypt, issued to "putty.software" no other info.
Sometimes I feel like we are training users to disregard safety mechanisms for phishing.
Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway, it's just a binary you download on windows before you hear the gospel of linux and ssh.
viraptor 15 hours ago [-]
Why would that be disregarding safety? There's no extra text you can put on the website that would prove anything else (apart from messages signed by a known key, but honestly nobody would check those). Certificates don't provide any identity validation in practice.
TZubiri 5 hours ago [-]
Certificates have fields for location, company or name of person.
viraptor 55 minutes ago [-]
They mean very little. Even the fully reviewed software signing cert I got with id validation was a total hack job (company didn't know how to read my ID, asked to change some field and they did).
akoboldfrying 17 hours ago [-]
> Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway
Huh? The source is available on the original site and TTBOMK always has been, you're welcome to compile it yourself.
TZubiri 5 hours ago [-]
No one in the history of humanity has compiled a tool from source in windows
mdaniel 5 hours ago [-]
Apologies, detecting sarcasm on the Internet is always tricky, but relevant to this discussion I have even gone so far as to make a CMake descriptor for PuTTY because I was compiling on Windows to fix some quirk that I didn't like (it was so many years ago I don't recall, but I did recall thinking "whhhhyyyyy!!!" to people that do cutesy home-grown build systems)
I'm sure it's a great piece of software, but sometimes, the simpler is better. I used PuTTY for a decade or so, and while it was kinda ugly and clunky, it's very beautiful and perfect because of its imperfections.
userbinator 13 hours ago [-]
When the first sentence on the page is "This website requires Javascript to be enabled.", I leave; but not before looking at the source and discovering a relative monstrosity, unlike the original PuTTY site which is almost pure content.
JdeBP 12 hours ago [-]
There are two pieces of software named Kitty. That one is the other one. (-:
Geezus_42 9 hours ago [-]
I used to. Being able to store all my configs in simple text files that I could easily move from machine to machine was the killer feature for me.
Squarex 7 hours ago [-]
Little bit unrelated, but it is super annoying that this site breaks back button in browser.
roguebloodrage 14 hours ago [-]
People have tried to hijack PuTTY and WinSCP forever.
This landing page looks suspicious. Even though the HTML links look like they go back to the legit site (https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty) I'm not clicking through to find out. There have been spoofing of links for 100's years.
layer8 9 hours ago [-]
Browsers have been giving you the ability to view what the actual link URL is since forever.
yreg 8 hours ago [-]
There is the homograph attack, but browsers do their best to mitigate it nowadays.
I do see this type of versioning as an indictment of such a technology for production scenarios, it's all a house of cards if that's what you are building upon.
It's a liability disclaimer versioning schema
tux2bsd 13 hours ago [-]
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IshKebab 10 hours ago [-]
lol is this a joke? Why are the screenshots blurry and miniscule? And randomly spaced in the middle of the page.
Come on, even ChatGPT can do a better job than this.
wainguo 17 hours ago [-]
wow! I used PuTTY about 18 years ago.
mekster 8 hours ago [-]
Come on, AI can make a better looking site in 10 minutes these days.
JFC I wish they would stop using Courier as the default font. It's like looking down the barrels of a shotgun. Consolas ftw.
blueflow 10 hours ago [-]
I like Courier. Are we gonna bash our heads in and argue over personal preferences?
GloriousMEEPT 5 hours ago [-]
What else is there to do? We live in an era where there's nothing left to talk about except gpu enabled terminal emulators and how much capitalism sucks
eviks 17 hours ago [-]
At least it’s readable on a phone with text reflowing unlike the main site, although there is no text to read, so not much of a win…
Would you like me to register you a nicer domain name?
No, thank you. Even if you can find one (most of them seem to have been registered already, by people who didn't ask whether we actually wanted it before they applied), we're happy with the PuTTY web site being exactly where it is. It's not hard to find (just type ‘putty’ into google.com and we're the first link returned), and we don't believe the administrative hassle of moving the site would be worth the benefit.
I wonder if they changed their mind because Google ceased to be a reliable way to find them.
Nevertheless, I can't consider relying on probabilistic algorithms controlled by 3rd parties to be a wise strategy.
Also, these days, after decades of habit building and a rise in awareness about scam-related stuff, I think people expect to see the name of the project early on in the URL, not in 7th position as it is currently.
That's pretty much all of the AI industry and clients.
* https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham/115027646348662282
I suspect that the recent kerfuffle motivated people to finally clean out bogus hyperlinks that casually listed putty.org as the download site, which would have been contributing to inflated page rank up to that point. I found one on a wiki and fixed it, myself, and I'm sure that I was not the only person who went looking.
… Well, I guess that's what they've done. Surely nobody could ever have been this naïve, though; it's not as though Google massaging results into unusable mess is anything new.
How else would you find it? By typing domain name guesses into your address bar until you hit the right one? How would you be sure you've hit the right one and not a scammer/squatter?
This is not a particularly easy problem to solve, and I agree that relying on Google to accurately and safely deliver you to the correct web site isn't great either, but I think we'd be much worse off without search engines.
Well I googled putty and found a couple different .org domains, one who which said it was legit but not official, and another which said it was official but looked wildly out of date.
Neither one I could find a download for Mac that worked. The one I tried gave a scary “we no longer allow putty sudo access as it’s dangerous” and when I googled this error I could find no explanation to assuage me.
And since I wanted to make sure what I was doing was legit, I searched for alternatives.
Eventually I discovered I could use command line in mac to generate the keys I needed. But first I installed Xcode then ran the command (I used chatgpt to tell me exactly how to get the type and length I needed). It was easy.
Side note, the whole culture of downloading random software and using it with just a single line in a terminal is always sketchy to me too. But I’m not a coder so I’m not used to it.
The idea is that you will need to put some trust in the project anyway, since you’re trying to install it. Might as well make it easier with a one line install.
Edit: You should only do this if someone reliable tells you to, honestly. Doing this with truly random projects you aimlessly find is not a good idea.
https://docs.github.com/en/authentication/connecting-to-gith...
This recently [1][2] got a lot of attention on the web and here on HN, along with a post on Mastodon from the author [3]
I imagine trying to disincentivize this and provide another shorter more official looking link is the hope here.
[1] https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/17/puttyorg_website_cont...
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44579265
[3] https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham/114846017785770922
I'm trying to grok this, but all of the posts sort of obliquely refer to things that happened in the past (even the old HN links here), rather than explicitly just explain what the hell happened.
Instead it's just some guy's website clearly unrelated to PuTTY. He's even gone out of his way to point people looking for PuTTY in the right direction. Who cares what his opinion is about anything else?
One weird trick to make your insignificance seem significant!
Extrapolated to the present time, all of us vaccinated individuals are now suffering the big consequences.
Too bad all nutjobs aren't so easy to disprove by simply taking a single large breath. :)
The same thing happened with Facebook "pages", when they became a personal "soap box" by the owner of the page. It was downhill from there... You might as well turn the whole web into FB/Twitter/X/Insta promotional spam at that point.
The Notepad++ site is run by the authors and reflects their stance. Putty.org is run by an outside party who hijacks the reputation of the PuTTY project to push their agenda.
Others - they don't understand the trust anyway, so there prerequisite steps missing before the main question anyway.
<p>I'm on Mastodon as <a rel="me" href="https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham">@simontatham@hachyderm.io</a>.</p>
If you trust that website, then you can be sure that this Mastodon account is the right one.
1. https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/
Looks like it's as complicated as a parts inventory system developed in house for a half a million employee company...
It means that whoever owns the website marked as verified also owns the social account. See https://joinmastodon.org/verification for a quick overview of how it works.
But the link validation confirms that if you believed that the original download site belongs to the author, then you would have almost the same guarantee about the social account. (+/- the chances of the putty website being hacked)
So it doesn't confirm the account belongs to the author, it confirms the site has a specific link and nothing more.
Adding a <meta> tag or creating a page with certain content are already used even for more impactful verification, like getting issued a certificate for that domain.
If an attacker does have broad access to edit the HTML of your website, I feel that's already the issue and Mastodon verifying that "this person controls this website" isn't even really wrong.
No sane sober person would use it to authenticate messages about changing URLs in a software supply chain.
How is this any different than your email address being compromised? How is this different than having your laptop compromised and somebody downloading your .ssh folder?
The issue here isn't "is this reliable identification" - because it IS reliable. Your concern is "how likely is this to be compromised vs other things" and that's a fair concern - but there are plenty of very secure web sites out there. This isn't saying "I am john doe and this is my identity", this is saying with some confidence "this person on mastadon is the same person as the person who wrote this web site copy" and that's a totally fine piece of identification for the right context.
This is in addition to the original site linking to the new one with a news post. Does that also mean nothing because an attacker could add a news post to the page?
A link that looks like this:
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.ht...
And now they've gone and made it worse by posting some new site and confirming the new link is real on their weird "hachyderm" social media post thing. Yeah, talk about a grey-beard get-off-my-lawn developer screaming at the wind and wanting to make it worse for themselves and their "brand".
At this point tech people should understand what Mastodon is. For their own benefit. It's been years.
Latest news
2025-08-14 New website, putty.software
We have a new domain name for the PuTTY website!
...
Maybe just call this the Future Home of Putty or something with a big link to the official page.
I suppose word will get around pretty fast but still.
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/
Try Mines, you never have to guess.
Then I realised Putty ships with a CLI version which I now use in Terminal for accessing serial.
PuTTY was just easier to get ahold of on a new install.
I think that's why it won out for me. That and its simplicity.
interesting to scan the log on that: https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/blob/main/Rel...
i cannot imagine windows without it. even wsl garbage pales in comparison
I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly?
I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.
But I found that the Bottles project pretty much solves this, by installing everything in some kind of sandboxed environment:
https://usebottles.com/
https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles
Has worked wonderfully for the few cases where plain Wine failed.
they don't have sandbox. only if you install the flatpack AND DISABLE SOME CONVENIENCES you actually get something I'd call a safe sandbox.
but their site lies and make you feel safe while being extremely vulnerable installing cracked games (which is what everyone used bubble for).
Which IDE do you use? JetBrains Rider?
I mostly use VS Code to be honest. I use VSCode for other languages and for a long time it was the only graphical editor to have good remote development (over SSH) support.
Rider has that feature now though and is pretty nice too. I typically jump over to it when I need to profile something as it integrates with dotTrace. If you're coming from full-fat Visual Studio you'll probably prefer Rider.
My personal dev is shifting to Rust.
Example use case would be that lets say a contractor from Microsoft tries one of your keys. Your restriction limits the key validity to 24.0.0.0/8 and they are coming from 207.0.0.0/8. They will be denied Authentication refused and you now have log entries that can be shared with their fraud department, the world, whomever. Obviously the tighter the restrictions the better, at the risk of requiring a static IPv4 or IPv6 address if too tight. One can always have lighter restrictions on a fall-back account that requires additional hoops to sudo / doas / su.
Also, domain policies offer more control over the corporate PCs (this is how some of the MS spying is shut off on corporate PCs; it's debatable if the corporate spying added by other domain policies is an improvement).
* https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/114693762493884550
I had been lucky through having done my own experimentation, decades ago, with setting up a default PAC file on the LAN and having left it in just-send-everything-directly mode, keeping it as I upgraded things on the LAN, all of these years. Because otherwise I would have been vulnerable to a third-party in the search path for years, on a machine that clearly and unequivocally, including per direct inspection of the setting in the registry, has this switched off.
* https://jdebp.uk/FGA/web-browser-auto-proxy-configuration.ht...
Yes. With Windows Recall data mining surveillance screenshots taken every 5-7 seconds, completely disregarding if this may compromise your security, safety or privacy, we move from "you're the product" to "you're a pet in a zoo, and we want to learn from your behavior."
> I know M$ is evil and spying on you, but not to such degree.*
I mean, they could be recording every second.
I'm pretty sure that's a bandwidth issue.
Not because they really feel like giving you 3-4 second pockets of security, safety and privacy.
Some of you people are just too far gone to turn off a setting.
For now. This is Microsoft we’re talking about. Needing a Microsoft account to log in to Windows used to be optional.
The other thing I’m missing is my 3D Gerber viewer called ZofZPCB. I’ve not gotten either it or Altium to even start.
Have they fixed font rendering yet? cmd.exe looks better on my laptop
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/commit/906edf7002b8ccf...
You need to define the "antialiasingMode" key in the settings JSON for the default profile to hold the value "cleartype", rather than "grayscale" (which is the default value). I don't believe this is exposed in the GUI settings page.
Note that this only affects the actual terminal emulation area. The rest of the application will still be pixel-level font smoothed (so e.g. the tab titlebars, the settings, etc.).
Something wrong with my eyes? Doesn't cmd.exe look smoother in this screenshot?
Cheers to decades of memories with PuTTY!
No idea what this means.
Anyway Simon Tatham's games are so good I think he gets a pass on anything else he does.
The current holder of that domain is using it to host a single page that pushes anti-vax nonsense under the guise of fighting censorship... but also links to the actual PuTTY site. Very weird mix of maybe-well-meaning and nonsense.
And in 2022, he wrote "Covid-19 is mostly snake venom added to drinking water in selected locations. There may also be a virus, but the main vehicle of hospitalizations is boatloads of powder, mixed in during 'water treatment.' Remdesivir, the main treatment for Covid, is injected snake venom. mRNA vaccines hijack your body to make more snake venom."
Whaaaaat the fuuuuuuck
Can anyone debug this statement?? I’m not looped into weird this realm of paranoid delusion torecognizs what they’re referring to here.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250728091154/https://www.putty...
Plus, I can find absolutely zero evidence of the existence of a German journalist called "Mirai F", so I'm a bit suspicious. (It might be the "PuPRed" person being maybe-doxxed -- but that's a blog site which entirely consists of a single article about PuTTY, so I'm not convinced "journalist" applies in a meaningful sense.)
The Bitvise answers also don't look good, of course. Nobody comes out of that one smelling like roses.
I say this as someone who thinks putty.org was pretty sketchy before it went full anti-vax, and is currently looking like a slam-dunk example of the kind of thing trademark law was meant for.
The homepage and the downloads page both seem fine to me.
(BTW, the collection of one-player puzzle games is super!)
* https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@thomastc/115031906344758192
Using putty as my daily driver was definitely part of my coming-of-age story as a windows sysadmin way back when.
putty.org is not run by the PuTTY developers
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44558328
Hijacking Trust? Bitvise Under Fire for Controlling Domain of FOSS Project PuTTY
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44579265
* https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham/115026616955174986
Putty is a terminal emulator and an SSH + telnet client all in one. Now Microsoft offers a number of platforms that overlap to provide similar functionality.
WSL2 (aka WSL) is the Linux system that runs a Linux kernel and apps within Windows (technically a hidden HyperV VM) with some loose bindings to the OS resources for networking, files etc.
OpenSSH is the SSH client installed with Windows. It can be used via CMD or Windows Terminal + Powershell . You don’t need WSL installed. So it’s great for VMs or remote shells.
Powershell is the Windows Shell (like bash on Linux or CMD on earlier windows) that lets you run openssh and other windows CLI Apps
Windows Terminal is the new-ish (6+ years) terminal emulator that lets you run a variety of shells. Most commonly Powershell , Bash (WSL), or you can SSH to any host using openssh . It works like tmux with tabs/windows into any remote host .
I decided to lay this all out because Windows apps for SSH and terminals are a little different than Linux.
That said, some people like PuTTY. It is much easier to setup and use. It also offers other features (like serial communications).
Just open a terminal and type ssh just like you would in Linux.
I'm pretty happy with Windows Terminal these days, but before then, it was all PuTTY + SecureCRT.
Then again, I may be biased due to always remembering PuTTY's official page being someone's personal site hosted on a .org.uk server.
There is actually a mirror at https://www.puttyssh.org/
Even puttytelnet.com/org/net is available.
Hell the puttytel.net is available
I (and I suspect several others) suggested a TLD that you would probably have no qualms about, a few weeks ago. M. Tatham went with software. instead; which is fair enough. software. has been around for a while, and is stable and a fairly on-point choice.
Be thankful that it was not putty.party. . (-:
Sometimes I feel like we are training users to disregard safety mechanisms for phishing.
Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway, it's just a binary you download on windows before you hear the gospel of linux and ssh.
Huh? The source is available on the original site and TTBOMK always has been, you're welcome to compile it yourself.
However, it seems that the universe heard my pleas https://git.tartarus.org/?p=simon/putty.git;a=commit;h=c19e7... Replace mkfiles.pl with a CMake build system
For context, I believe that a tool isn't open source unless I can build it, so I actually build almost anything I can from source for that reason
This landing page looks suspicious. Even though the HTML links look like they go back to the legit site (https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty) I'm not clicking through to find out. There have been spoofing of links for 100's years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDN_homograph_attack
PuTTY's website is fairly clean and accessible, unlike this landing page.
I do see this type of versioning as an indictment of such a technology for production scenarios, it's all a house of cards if that's what you are building upon.
It's a liability disclaimer versioning schema
Come on, even ChatGPT can do a better job than this.